Three weeks ago I was sitting in a Gospel Principles class (Its on the basics in my L.D.S.church) that I had been asked to teach by a friend who was out of town.
I found it strange that just a few weeks ago they had been talking about the priesthood and how men held it, and women didn't. All the men in the room nodding in agreement and more women than not were sitting, heads down, quiet.
A few women and I shared knowing glances, as there are 2 or three that I have shared my story with,( I believe my big ol eye in the sky-you know...God has given me moments of clarity and more than enough inspirational people in my life)
There are women who long to give of themselves in service, blessing others through that gift given by God. That "mantle" that says its ok for women, unashamed and without fear to lay their hands on another's head to bless them.
To be able to bless their own children, to call down that power of God to help others in need. Not for themselves, but for those they love. And people say feminists who want the priesthood want power? That power has nothing to do with us.
And still, as I write this I can hear what some will say about this...
Weeks later, after the lesson on the Priesthood there I was giving a lesson in the same classroom on fasting.
I found it interesting because a few days prior I had found out that "Ordain Women" that I have a profile on was having a day of fasting. Their hope was that the brethren of our (LDS) church would prayerfully consider women in the church holding the Priesthood.
This is not just in my church, but all over the world.
Catholic, Moslem. Any church who does not allow women to hold the Priesthood and in Moslems case, to allow them to pray at the wall in
There was a webinar ( http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37855947 ) at the end of the day of fasting... And at the end, they called on women of the past to help us in our cause, to me it was awe inspiring, and it gave me chills to think of our forbearers, those who came before us.
With all of this going on, I had to stay silent. (People who know me KNOW that that for me it is like yanking out my nails with pliers...not that I've ever done that before but...OUCH!)
The only thing I could say, in my own church, is that "I found it significant that today I was teaching a lesson on fasting when I was fasting with thousands upon thousands of all faiths for something(The Priesthood) the next day which I said I wouldn't go into. (Sigh)
Someone (a guy) after class who was in the class I taught was talking to me and I mentioned that what I was fasting about the next day was for Ordaining women...he said he didn't agree and I said to each his own...THEN he cracked some joke talking about "We should have never allowed women's suffrage."
I asked him "what is "Women's suffrage" just to see what his reaction would be and he blurted out some crass comment that if "I didn't understand what it was that there was no point cracking the joke" or something...as if its ok to joke about women not having something as simple as the right to vote... even if he was joking it was in poor taste...)
Nauvoo Relief Society Minute Book
Top of Form
Minutes of the Proceedings
Third Meeting of the Society —
Lodge Room March 30th 1842.
Joseph Smith said that...
"The Society should move according to the ancient Priesthood, hence there should be a select Society separate from all the evils of the world, choice, virtuous and holy— He said he was going to make of this Society a kingdom of priests as in Enoch’s day— as in Pauls day."
D. Michael Quinn
In this link it talks specifically about the women who were ordained to the Priesthood in Joseph Smiths time. (At the bottom of the link and with the historical things written here, it talks about where the evidence was found, and also talks about things being omitted. I won't say whether I agree with those or not because honestly, I don't know in some of these cases what conspired, but I find it interesting.)
"Mormon women did not request priesthood—Joseph Smith would soon confer it on them as part of the restoration of the gospel. Joseph clearly intended that Mormon women in 1842 understand their healings were to be “gifts of the priesthood,” not simply ministrations of faith.11Presiding Patriarch Hyrum Smith, an original member of the Holy Order, blessed Leonora Cannon Taylor: “You shall be blesst [sic] with your portion  of the Priesthood which belongeth to you, that you may be set apart for your Anointing and your induement [endowment].”14
Why are we as a church going backward instead of forward?
Growing up I didn't question women not having the priesthood, I didn't even think about it.
I was a young single woman going to some really fun activities at my church, with a very perceptive bishop. ( I'm not sure if I will use the other word I'm thinking yet, but you'll get the gist of it in a second)
My Bishop took me aside all by myself one day at a devotional, out of earshot of everyone else.
As we were sitting on the back deck of the house talking he said to me...
"You are going to have to be VERY careful who you marry. If you marry the wrong man you will have three kids, get divorced, and end up out of the church for a while."
Weeks later we had an activity outside, And then we went in to have a devotional. I don't think I was paying attention much at first, until my Bishop (The same one as above) suddenly stopped what he was talking about, paused for a moment, and said "Some day women will have the priesthood". I perked right up, but I couldn't believe my ears. A football player I knew raised his hand and said "You mean through the men, right"? he said "No, One day women will hold the Priesthood". I held on to that thought thinking that it was interesting, but went about my life as usual.
I had been hanging out with a guy at the church who had told me that I had to go to his ward ( we are divided up depending which area we live, and that depends on what time and building you go to) because where I lived was in the ward boundaries where this same bishop was. I was dating his best friend, and so I thought that his friend was trying to help.
I found out later his friend was really no friend at all. He had been telling people that I was his girlfriend, even though I had no desire to be his girlfriend.
Why am I telling you this?
Thank God (really) that changed!
There are women who have men in their house who are not worthy Priesthood holders, along with good single women with kids.
Not long ago a friend of mine brought up the whole priesthood and women idea on facebook...not much later they lost a few friends on facebook over it.
Why is it that it is such an inflammatory idea? After all, again... Joseph smith himself talked to the women in the church when the Relief Society was put together (Women in my church go to Relief society where we talk about church and learn about different things, men to Priesthood meeting, where they do the same.)
I read on a profile on OrdainWomen.org where One woman and her husbands daughter passed away and her husband could give her a blessing knowing exactly what was in her heart but when her husband was having the most anguish in the middle of the night when he was hurting she couldn't lay her hands on his head and give him a blessing knowing how exquisite his pain was and what was in his heart...
What if women could do that?
What about single mothers?
This is what one woman had to say about being raised by her single mother
"As someone who was raised by a single mother I would love to have back to school blessings from my mother rather than some decent well intentioned stranger who came to our house once a month..."
Another woman in a ward ( A ward is a certain amount of people from an area going at a certain time to church) talked of not always being able to get the missionaries from another ward to administer the sacrament... there were times that for that week, they just weren't able to.
If women were ordained, none of that need happen.
The other thing that needs to be mentioned is the HUGE problem with pornography and other problems where men are unworthy and don't hold the priesthood. What do women do then?
Again, giving women the Priesthood would solve that problem.
I have heard men say "Well then, what are the men supposed to do then?"
The answer is...
THE SAME THING AS THEY ALWAYS WERE DOING.
We would SHARE the load.
Another thought I have held on to for YEARS...
He started to majorly grill me for the actual, specific details about it, and as I was talking to him something told me to STOP TALKING....
I had this horrible, sinking feeling that my bishop was getting off on it, and actually getting turned on, and at that moment it felt confirmed to me that I needed to get out of there QUICK and stop talking.
I believe that even in that moment, the holy spirit was talking to me, even then telling me to get out of there.
I told the Bishop I would not give him any more details and got the hell outa dodge...
Honestly, I believe that there should NEVER be a middle aged, older man, no matter how good or holy they are, sitting in a room alone with a young girl talking to her about sexual things. I think women should be talking to women, and men to men.
RIGHT away, my inclination was that it was about my posts on Facebook about Women and the Priesthood.
So I wrote up exactly what my thoughts were on Women and the Priesthood so that when I met with him my thoughts would be clear and concessive, and I prayed for guidance...I thought...if that's what the call for a meeting was about...
She said that she had shared with her Bishop her thoughts about women's ordination, and she had believed that what she shared with her Bishop would stay in that room.
God bless women like that!
My meeting with the Bishop today was exactly what I thought it was about.
Its ok with me (Well, sorta...rolling eyes here...lol) that someone in my ward on Facebook felt they needed to talk to the bishop about what I am posting on Facebook about ordaining women because I have always been very open about how I feel (Though I have never and never will say any of this in church.)
I am VERY open on my page about how I feel about a lot of things, especially things that I feel are important...someday I hope to see women holding the priesthood. I hope I see it before I die. I understand its not doctrine, even though Joseph Smith himself said to the Relief Society (As recorded In the Nauvoo Relief Society minutes March 30,1842) that "he was going to make of the Society a kingdom of priests as in Enoch's day, as in Paul's day"...
This is just proof to me that the Mormon Church is not going to throw the book at me for having my own thoughts and opinions, which SHOULD be ok and that I won't just get thrown under the bus for. I am valued and loved for who I am. After my experience, I can say that it was a very beautiful and spiritual experience talking through my thoughts with the Bishop.
Thank Heavens for good men.
As to whoever felt they had to tell the Bishop...If there is anyone in my ward who does not like what I am posting, its ok if you remove me from your friend list, I won't be offended. You don't have to look at what I post. Really. It might just be easier for you if you don't look at what I post. (I am talking to whoever did this...)This is my safe space, and I will keep posting what I feel. I always have. We all have to tend to our OWN salvation. Please attend to yours.
Nothing about who I am has or will ever change. Period.
The week (The Sunday I was meeting with the Bishop) I found it funny that the lesson was on the Priesthood. If it was September 1st (I don't remember) that makes sense that it was that day because it was on the agenda...(I have the syllabus for lessons through Dec 29th...)
One woman who is a friend of mine on Facebook had printed out some things on the priesthood and whether she realized it or not, she kept pointing with her pointer finger towards me as she read about the Priesthood...whether it was intentional or not, I don't know...but it made me wonder if she had been reading my thoughts on facebook and it was her way of blasting "Come To Jesus" at me:p... (With all that , I'm not mad, I just thought it was kind of funny...and a bit bizarre.
As the lesson went on the teacher talked about how Gordon B Hinckley had said women didn't have the priesthood because the Lord made it that way...??? BUT the thoughts going through MY mind as she said that was that Gordon B Hinckley ALSO said women had "never asked for the Priesthood" in an interview, so what does that say? What WAS he saying?
Now we are asking.
I'm not going to try to tell God whether ordaining women will happen or not. But this I know...In a recent talk to BYU, someone said that this whole womens ordination thing was a contemporary idea, that we need to think straight,(As if we are not???)my thoughts up above, it has been an issue for hundreds of years,I think we are pretty straight shooting... and then he talks about tampering with heavenly fathers plan, which I don't believe we can do anyway, I mean...he's GOD right?
All I have noticed is that in a time when enough people worked through God ( I think God always works through people whether it's bringing some who had inspiration to do it or people bringing about change when there are enough people out there ready, I think God works with them (I think that happened with my African American friends and the Priesthood) miracles happen and things change.
Thank God! (Really)
As one of the most incredible women of our time, Mother Teresa once said
― Mother Teresa (Thanks Steffi)
I don't want to make waves, I want to create ripples. I want to change the world for GOOD.
Water travels. Water nourishes. Water reshapes the environment around it.
Kind of like women, don't you think?